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Yoko
Aug 20, 2008 15:13:11 GMT 1
Post by onolennon on Aug 20, 2008 15:13:11 GMT 1
I really like Yoko. I know that some people do not like her, and I have encountered people all the time who have said things about her and John's relationship, good and bad. But as far as I know of Yoko, I admire her very much. I think she was the perfect woman for John (besides my self. lol. just kidding.) I think she is very good to John's fans, because I have seen many of her works in benefit of John's memory, and it is just fantastic to me. She has written me a letter, and was just the sweetest she could be. I believe Yoko should be shown more respect sometimes, because after all, most of what she does, is for keeping John's memory alive. I think their love was the most beautiful and pure in the world, and that is why I admire her the most. apieceofsky. Ps. my username is the title of one of Yoko's pieces of artwork she made in tribute of her and John's campaign for peace. I agree, apieceofsky. She wrote me a letter as well, and she was incredibly sweet. As I've said before, I admire Yoko very, very much, and I think she was John's soulmate, in a way. Their minds were a perfect match.
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littlekicks
Nowhere is the place to be
seems like all I really was doing...was waiting for you..my darling John xx
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Yoko
Dec 3, 2010 23:48:26 GMT 1
Post by littlekicks on Dec 3, 2010 23:48:26 GMT 1
Ok Yoko Ono is a manipulating, dominating, cold woman...I am a john lennon fan not a yoko ono fan and I will always hate her for making his first born son BUY letters, photo's etc of his father because as she said...'I can't split the guitars in two Julian' COLD WOMAN!!!!!
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Yoko
Dec 13, 2010 1:52:29 GMT 1
Post by fanofthefab4 on Dec 13, 2010 1:52:29 GMT 1
When I read things about Yoko in the studio during the White Album sessions, I get a little angry with Yoko. When we look at the Beatles breakup, there are many facts that contributed to their breakup. Drugs, growing apart, Pauls increased control, Johns distance from the group, Georges resentment and frustration at trying to get his songs on the albums, and I include Yokos interference in the studio and just plain being a distraction to John and the others. I think we as fans sometimes get a bit selfish and think if Yoko wasnt around, the Beatles would have stayed together. However, she was just a part of bigger issues that was already set in motion. I dont know Yoko personally, but from the public image I get, I dont really like her too much. I dont hate her and I am not in between the two. I am more to the side of she is not my favorite person. I view her as someone I have to accept as being someone John respected and loved and was a very important part of his life. On the whole, I am not a fan of her music, but she did do some very "artsy" things in music and for that I can respect her. Anyway, I dont hate Yoko, but I dont like her. The bottom line,John wanted Yoko with him all the time,including at The Beatles recording sessions.And if Yoko had refused to go with him it's really likely that John would have just said,Ok well then I'm not going either! And The Beatles likely would have broken up even sooner than they did,and we wouldn't have had great albums like The White Album and Abbey Road. I once spoke to a radio DJ by accident,because he was now a manager of a CD store and I wanted to order some imported solo John Lennon and Paul McCartney albums.And we got to talking and I said are you a Beatles fan,and he said yeah I'm a Beatles fan.And he told me that he was the one who went up with fellow DJ Helen Leicht (who is a huge Beatles fan and she used to host a great 2 hour Breakfast With The Beatles show for many years from 10am-12pm every Sunday on a local radio station.)to do an extensive interview with Yoko at the Dakota in 1983 that aired on two different Sundays in parts 1 and 2. I loved Yoko ever since I heard this interview,she's very intelligent and a kind person for the most part,and I love that she was a feminist who turned John into one too.Anyway I said to him,you went in John's home? And he said yep,I said how could you go in there wasn't it painful? And he said it was tough ,and I said were there pictures of John all over the place and he said yes .I asked him what was Yoko like and he said she's a very nice lady.
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Yoko
Dec 13, 2010 2:04:47 GMT 1
Post by fanofthefab4 on Dec 13, 2010 2:04:47 GMT 1
Mike Douglas also said to John and Yoko,You're both so different,you had such different childhoods. John said,it's incredible isn't it? Yoko said,Yes! Mike asked,What do you think has attracted you to each other?Yoko said,We're very similar.John then said,She came from a Japanese upper-middle class family.Her parents were bankers and all that jazz,very straight.He said they were trying to get her off with an ambassador when she was 18.You know,now is the time you marry the ambassador and we get all settled.I come from a an upper-working class family in Liverpool,the other end of the world. John then said,we met but our minds are so similar,our ideas are so similar.It was incredible that we could be so alike from different enviornments,and I don't know what it is,but we're very similar in our heads.And we look alike too!
Mike also asked John about his painful childhood,and how his father left him when he was 5,and John said how he only came back into his life when he was successful and famous(20 years later!),and John said he knew that I was living all those years in the same house with my auntie,but he never visited him.He said when he came back into his life all those years later,he looked after his father for the same amount of time he looked after him,about 4 years. He also talked about how his beloved mother Julia,who encouraged his music by teaching him to play the banjo,got hit and killed by a car driven by an off duty drunk cop when John was only 17 and just getting to have a realtionship with her after she had given him away to be raised by her older sister Mimi when he was 5. And John also said,And in spite of all that,I still don't have a hate-the-pigs attitude or hate-cops attitude.He then said, I think everybody's human you know,but it was very hard for me at that time,and I really had a chip on my shoulder,and it still comes out now and then,because it's a strange life to lead .He then said,But in general ah,I've got my own family now ...I got Yoko and she made up for all that pain. John's psychologist Dr. Arthur Janov told Mojo Magazine in 2000( parts of this interview is on a great UK John Lennon fan site,You Are The Plastic Ono Band) that John had as much pain as he had ever seen in his life,and he was a psychologist for at least 18 years when John and Yoko saw him in 1970! He said John was a very dedicated patient. He also said that John left therapy too early though and that they opened him up,but didn't get a chance to put him back together again and Dr.Janov told John he need to finish the therapy,he said because of the immigration services and he thought Nixon was after him,he said we have to get out of the country.John asked if he could send a therapist to Mexico with him,and Dr.Janov told him we can't do that because they had too many patients to take care of,and he said they cut the therapy off just as it started really,and we were just getting going.
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Yoko
Dec 13, 2010 2:22:38 GMT 1
Post by fanofthefab4 on Dec 13, 2010 2:22:38 GMT 1
Mike Douglas also said to John and Yoko,You're both so different,you had such different childhoods. John said,it's incredible isn't it? Yoko said,Yes! Mike asked, What do you think has attracted you to each other?Yoko said,We're very similar.John then said,She came from a Japanese upper-middle class family.Her parents were bankers and all that jazz,very straight.He said they were trying to get her off with an ambassador when she was 18.You know,now is the time you marry the ambassador and we get all settled.I come from a an upper-working class family in Liverpool,the other end of the world. John then said,we met but our minds are so similar,our ideas are so similar.It was incredible that we could be so alike from different enviornments,and I don't know what it is,but we're very similar in our heads.And we look alike too!
Mike also asked John about his painful childhood,and how his father left him when he was 5,and John said how he only came back into his life when he was successful and famous(20 years later!),and John said he knew that I was living all those years in the same house with my auntie,but he never visited him.He said when he came back into his life all those years later,he looked after his father for the same amount of time he looked after him,about 4 years. He also talked about how his beloved mother Julia,who encouraged his music by teaching him to play the banjo,got hit and killed by a car driven by an off duty drunk cop when John was only 17 and just getting to have a realtionship with her after she had given him away to be raised by her older sister Mimi when he was 5. And John also said,And in spite of all that,I still don't have a hate-the-pigs attitude or hate-cops attitude.He then said, I think everybody's human you know,but it was very hard for me at that time,and I really had a chip on my shoulder,and it still comes out now and then,because it's a strange life to lead .He then said,But in general ah,I've got my own family now ...I got Yoko and she made up for all that pain. John's psychologist Dr. Arthur Janov told Mojo Magazine in 2000( parts of this interview is on a great UK John Lennon fan site,You Are The Plastic Ono Band) that John had as much pain as he had ever seen in his life,and he was a psychologist for at least 18 years when John and Yoko saw him in 1970! He said John was a very dedicated patient. He also said that John left therapy too early though and that they opened him up,but didn't get a chance to put him back together again and Dr.Janov told John he need to finish the therapy,he said because of the immigration services and he thought Nixon was after him,he said we have to get out of the country.John asked if he could send a therapist to Mexico with him,and Dr.Janov told him we can't do that because they had too many patients to take care of,and he said they cut the therapy off just as it started really,and we were just getting going.
By the way,I have seen many still pictures and video tapes like on The Mike Douglas show,where Yoko looked very attractive,she looked very attractive on The Dick Cavett Show with John,and she actually looked very cute and pretty standing next to John and his great singing and guitar playing of John Sinclair during The Ten For Two Free John St.Claire concert. Most of the time she didn't even wear make up and she still looked very attractive.And she still looks pretty good especially when she's turning 78 in February!
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Yoko
Dec 13, 2010 2:29:03 GMT 1
Post by fanofthefab4 on Dec 13, 2010 2:29:03 GMT 1
This is what I posted on a Beatles fan site about the recent great PBS American Masters show LENNONYC which has Double Fantasy producer Jack Douglas,John's good friend for 9 years rock phographer Bob Gruen,Elton John,who says John was one of the most kind,funniest people he ever met,and he said the man was incredible and he still treasures every moment he spent with him,the musicians from John & Yoko's early 70's band Elephants Memory were interviewd,and other music engineers,a rock DJ Dennis Elsas,Yoko,May Pang,etc and they all liked and loved him and knew him pretty well. That is totally different from what I saw as the real John,(it only made me feel even sadder that he was taken away and so horribly! I felt this great documetary(have you seen it yet?) showed what I always understod,and what award winning music journalist and former editor of The Melody Maker for 20 years,and close friend of John's for 18 years from 1962-1980,Ray Coleman so empathetically wrote about John in his great thorough John biography,Lennon.John was emotionally scarred and messed up for most of his life and in a lot of pain because of the traumas he had in his childhood and teens,but I'm sure he was not a bad person for the most part,I think he was really a sensitive good person underneath all along,just mentally sick for most of his life,but he was definitely much more emotionally together and sweet at the end sadly.And that is who the *real* john really always was under all of the emotional pain and anger. I love John *more* as a person(and artist) after seeing this show. I knew for years already about how he cheated on Yoko when she was right there,and yes that was terrible and it's not an excuse but this is an explaination which even Yoko herslef said she understood,he was in a bad emotional state and very drunk,and as Jack Douglas said(and Eliot Mintz says this in Lennon by Ray Coleman) that John and alcohol were a very bad combination he never could handle it well and it had a really bad effect on him,thank God he eventually cleaned up and got off of it during the last 5 years of his life.And he had a good conscious,he felt very guilty about the things he did including this which was made very clear in this program.At least he did have a concious and regretted and felt sorry for the wrong things he did and actually worked on himself and changed for the better,that is a lot more than a lot of men(and some women do),many wife beaters and rapists never feel any remorse and never try to work on themseles and change! Paul McCartney for the most part isn't a bastard,but a sweet person,but after he and beautiful British red haired actress Jane Asher were lovers for five years from April 1963 when she was only 17 and a virgin,and Paul was 21( and far from a virgin since he lost his virginity at only age 15 in 1957 which was not common then with a girl who was bigger and older than him) and she and Paul lived together in their own house from 1966-Spring 1968 when after they were engaged to be married for 7 months,Jane came home unexpectedly early from touring with her theatre company,she found Paul in their bed with another woman and she left Paul for good! George cheated on Pattie including with Ringo's first wife Maureen,and John,George, and Ringo all also cheated on their first wives with tons of young women groupies,many who were teenage girls,when they were touring from 1963-1966 and this was a very common part of the rock and roll life style especially in the 1960's. John said in his last interviews that he regretted being violent getting into fights with men and hitting women,and said that is why he felt so strongly about being peaceful and promoting peace.Yoko changed him for the better,because of their love,and great relationship and her feminism,John went into scream therapy with psychologist Dr.Arthur Janov and dealt with his traumas for the first time,and he made a brilliant album out of it,his first solo album,John Lennon Plastic Ono Band and he became a feminist,and a nurturing caring husband and father to Yoko and his son Sean.If you listen to the radio interviews he did hours before it happened,he sounded much more together,and happy and not angry and bitter any more.He talked about how he regretted not spending enough time with his first son Julian and that he was in his 20's like most men too involed with their careers to be a real involed father.He said that he regretted this and that he and Julian would have a relationship in the future. And it was also very brave and great of John to co-write and sing on The Dick Cavet Show and in the Madison Square Garden concerts both in 1972 the powerful and sadly still true,feminist song,Woman Is The Ni***r of The World,and it was banned off of the radio,and on The Dick Cavet show,shown in LENNONYC he sweetly and clearly explained what this song was really about and why he and Yoko wrote it and performed it.Also he and Yoko played the August 1972 Madison Square Garden concert to help raise money for retarded children and aldults. Just one year before John was cruelly,brutally,tragically shot and killed for no rational reason,he donated 1,000 $ (which in 1979 was a lot of money) to NYC cops for bullet proof vests. As a poster on Paul McCartney.com said in discussing this great show,that Tom Hayden pointed out how John and Yoko worked hard on behalf of many different social injustices.And John's great performance of his song,John Sinclair helped get him out of jail 48 hours later! And as many problems John had,he(and Paul McCartney) gave millions of people happiness with their musical brilliance,and John never would have shot and killed anyone!
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tele52
It's a long way to go
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Yoko
Dec 21, 2010 14:28:35 GMT 1
Post by tele52 on Dec 21, 2010 14:28:35 GMT 1
Yoko gets a very hard time in general, quite unfairly I think. You have to respect her for sticking to her principles in the face of so much adversity from the media and even fans of John.
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rubyroses17
Trying to change the whole wide world
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I ♥ John Lennon
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Yoko
Jan 27, 2011 2:59:11 GMT 1
Post by rubyroses17 on Jan 27, 2011 2:59:11 GMT 1
I love Yoko. She is awesome and I know that John really loved her.
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Yoko
Oct 29, 2011 7:43:04 GMT 1
Post by fanofthefab4 on Oct 29, 2011 7:43:04 GMT 1
I love Yoko. She is awesome and I know that John really loved her. Yes, and Yoko loved and still loves John!
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